Comments on: How to fix fouls in the NBA http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/ Enjoy worrying in the new year Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:36:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Ted http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-609 Ted Thu, 29 May 2008 19:26:43 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=157#comment-609 OK so when/how will this be implemented in college? I think a vague flop should be a no-call. Most of the time I think a 100% clear fake-ass flop should be a no-call as well, as it's only hurting the defending player that's on the ground, but there are times when I think it should be a technical... i.e VIRGINIA TECH'S DERON WASHINGTON, who infuriated me to no end. OK so when/how will this be implemented in college?

I think a vague flop should be a no-call. Most of the time I think a 100% clear fake-ass flop should be a no-call as well, as it’s only hurting the defending player that’s on the ground, but there are times when I think it should be a technical… i.e VIRGINIA TECH’S DERON WASHINGTON, who infuriated me to no end.

]]> By: Ian http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-607 Ian Thu, 29 May 2008 15:36:30 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=157#comment-607 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3416579 Looks like they won't be changing the fouls in the NBA. They will be instituting fines for flopping, which I like since that will make Tony Parker, Manu Ginobli, and Anderson Varejao play ball for real. They are also going to be adding more replay usage. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3416579

Looks like they won’t be changing the fouls in the NBA. They will be instituting fines for flopping, which I like since that will make Tony Parker, Manu Ginobli, and Anderson Varejao play ball for real. They are also going to be adding more replay usage.

]]> By: Ian http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-569 Ian Thu, 22 May 2008 16:32:10 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=157#comment-569 Man that Duke/Maryland game is so freakin sweet. Man that Duke/Maryland game is so freakin sweet.

]]> By: Ian http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-412 Ian Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:07:13 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=157#comment-412 Yeah I know. Like how Battier ALWAYS got the charge call and never the block. I mean yeah, he's good at taking charges, but come on. I always felt like that was a little much even if the calls were helping the team I liked. Yeah I know. Like how Battier ALWAYS got the charge call and never the block. I mean yeah, he’s good at taking charges, but come on. I always felt like that was a little much even if the calls were helping the team I liked.

]]> By: Ted http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-410 Ted Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:49:52 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=157#comment-410 You know... it happens in college too, if you're lucky. Just look at Hanstravel, who never gets called for walking (he also gets the crap beat of of him)... and on the complete oppsite end of the spectrum you've got Zoubek, who does travel alot but I think gets called for it a little too much... like the refs are actually looking for it to happen. You know… it happens in college too, if you’re lucky. Just look at Hanstravel, who never gets called for walking (he also gets the crap beat of of him)… and on the complete oppsite end of the spectrum you’ve got Zoubek, who does travel alot but I think gets called for it a little too much… like the refs are actually looking for it to happen.

]]> By: Ian http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-409 Ian Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:45:05 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=157#comment-409 Yeah Ted, I know why they do it. Its still crap. I don't agree with the sentiment that a guy has a couple good seasons and he all of the sudden is allowed to travel. This isn't some kind of video game crap where you unlock cheats or something. I just don't feel like fair calls would ruin the entertainment value of the NBA. Good players would still be good if they had a few more fouls on them. Kobe and LeBron would still be able to crack 30 points if they were allowed to be called for traveling. Look at Shaq. Its hard to understand just how dominant Shaq really was in his prime when you look at his numbers. You watched him and it was almost unfair how dominant he was. He was killing the competition and so the NBA started calling the game differently for Shaq. People were allowed to foul the crap out of him at times with no call. Yeah Ted, I know why they do it. Its still crap. I don’t agree with the sentiment that a guy has a couple good seasons and he all of the sudden is allowed to travel. This isn’t some kind of video game crap where you unlock cheats or something. I just don’t feel like fair calls would ruin the entertainment value of the NBA. Good players would still be good if they had a few more fouls on them. Kobe and LeBron would still be able to crack 30 points if they were allowed to be called for traveling. Look at Shaq. Its hard to understand just how dominant Shaq really was in his prime when you look at his numbers. You watched him and it was almost unfair how dominant he was. He was killing the competition and so the NBA started calling the game differently for Shaq. People were allowed to foul the crap out of him at times with no call.

]]> By: Ted http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-408 Ted Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:20:43 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=157#comment-408 ... it might have been 2 fouls, 4 shots missed. still unbelievable. … it might have been 2 fouls, 4 shots missed. still unbelievable.

]]> By: Ted http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-407 Ted Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:11:41 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=157#comment-407 Chris, maybe if they reduced the shot clock, then inbounding would be done from half court? I don't know. Ian, I agree that was one of the greatest comebacks ever... just want to clarify that while they needed to foul Maryland for it to happen, I believe it was actually only 1 foul (2 shots missed) and the comeback was actually driven by like 3 steals off of Maryland's inbounding. As far as stars getting more calls than a scrub, it's all about the business aspect, and what fans want to see. It's like going to the latest Christian Bale movie and all of a sudden all the attention is on some no-name actor. More time and energy, hair/makeup, camera time, etc is devoted to the star succeeding and being awesome because that's what people are paying for. Chris, maybe if they reduced the shot clock, then inbounding would be done from half court? I don’t know.

Ian, I agree that was one of the greatest comebacks ever… just want to clarify that while they needed to foul Maryland for it to happen, I believe it was actually only 1 foul (2 shots missed) and the comeback was actually driven by like 3 steals off of Maryland’s inbounding.

As far as stars getting more calls than a scrub, it’s all about the business aspect, and what fans want to see. It’s like going to the latest Christian Bale movie and all of a sudden all the attention is on some no-name actor. More time and energy, hair/makeup, camera time, etc is devoted to the star succeeding and being awesome because that’s what people are paying for.

]]> By: Ian http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-406 Ian Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:43:54 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=157#comment-406 The worst part about that game 2 was them fouling Shaq OFF THE BALL and him getting free throws. The easiest way to fix this? If its an off the ball foul and the team is in the bonus, the fouled team should get to pick the shooter. Its crap that they can just run up and hit Shaq and completely ruin any flow of the game. So cheap. Either that or make a foul off the ball flagrant. Fouling at the end of the game is just part of basketball. It usually doesn't work, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. Its not like the alternative of letting the clock run out makes any sense for the losing team. Also, it isn't like you could maintain a strategy where you foul constantly for the whole game. You would run out of players. When the strategy does work, it makes for some of the best theater in sports. Look at this year's NCAA championship. That was an awesome ending in regulation. That Duke/Maryland game like 7 years back was one of the greatest comebacks ever and not just because I am a Duke fan. Its part of the game. What really needs to be fixed in the NBA is the biased referees. I can't fathom why a star should get more calls than a scrub. The worst part about that game 2 was them fouling Shaq OFF THE BALL and him getting free throws. The easiest way to fix this? If its an off the ball foul and the team is in the bonus, the fouled team should get to pick the shooter. Its crap that they can just run up and hit Shaq and completely ruin any flow of the game. So cheap. Either that or make a foul off the ball flagrant.

Fouling at the end of the game is just part of basketball. It usually doesn’t work, but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done. Its not like the alternative of letting the clock run out makes any sense for the losing team. Also, it isn’t like you could maintain a strategy where you foul constantly for the whole game. You would run out of players. When the strategy does work, it makes for some of the best theater in sports. Look at this year’s NCAA championship. That was an awesome ending in regulation. That Duke/Maryland game like 7 years back was one of the greatest comebacks ever and not just because I am a Duke fan. Its part of the game.

What really needs to be fixed in the NBA is the biased referees. I can’t fathom why a star should get more calls than a scrub.

]]> By: Chris http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/04/25/how-to-fix-fouls-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-405 Chris Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:36:45 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=157#comment-405 <blockquote>The team that’s ahead could just hold the ball for the duration of the shot clock. </blockquote> That would still be more exciting than what we have to endure now. The shot clock isn't that long and they could adopt something similar to the 5 second rule in college with 2 minutes to go. <blockquote>You want the game to be more exciting at the end rather than sit through 2 minutes of clock extended to 15 minutes of real time… how about reducing the shot clock to 10 seconds for the final 2 or 3 minutes?</blockquote> That's barely enough time to get it past half court ;-)

The team that’s ahead could just hold the ball for the duration of the shot clock.

That would still be more exciting than what we have to endure now. The shot clock isn’t that long and they could adopt something similar to the 5 second rule in college with 2 minutes to go.

You want the game to be more exciting at the end rather than sit through 2 minutes of clock extended to 15 minutes of real time… how about reducing the shot clock to 10 seconds for the final 2 or 3 minutes?

That’s barely enough time to get it past half court ;-)

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