Comments on: Don’t force Sulu to divorce http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/05/23/dont-force-sulu-to-divorce/ Enjoy worrying in the new year Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:51:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Cameron http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/05/23/dont-force-sulu-to-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-585 Cameron Sun, 25 May 2008 23:25:18 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=197#comment-585 Sulu has such a silky voice. I wish I could listen to it every day... in some other format than Howard Stern's show. Sulu has such a silky voice. I wish I could listen to it every day… in some other format than Howard Stern’s show.

]]> By: Ian http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/05/23/dont-force-sulu-to-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-582 Ian Sat, 24 May 2008 02:02:21 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=197#comment-582 Good point. Good point.

]]> By: Chris http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/05/23/dont-force-sulu-to-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-581 Chris Sat, 24 May 2008 00:32:22 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=197#comment-581 It's going to be brought up, but I don't think it will matter. Just a hunch, but the people that won't vote for Obama because of gay rights issues probably wouldn't vote for him because he's black. It’s going to be brought up, but I don’t think it will matter.

Just a hunch, but the people that won’t vote for Obama because of gay rights issues probably wouldn’t vote for him because he’s black.

]]> By: Ian http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/05/23/dont-force-sulu-to-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-580 Ian Fri, 23 May 2008 21:34:06 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=197#comment-580 I think its really unfortunate that you know this legalization thing in CA is going to brought up as a topic in the upcoming general election and it will be used to galvanize the right behind McCain. I think its really unfortunate that you know this legalization thing in CA is going to brought up as a topic in the upcoming general election and it will be used to galvanize the right behind McCain.

]]> By: Chris http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/05/23/dont-force-sulu-to-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-578 Chris Fri, 23 May 2008 15:27:59 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=197#comment-578 I think the federal constitutional amendment thing is just a threat. It'd be far too difficult to get something like that passed IMO. Like I said. It's a way for Republicans to make political hay without having to actually do anything. I think the federal constitutional amendment thing is just a threat. It’d be far too difficult to get something like that passed IMO.

Like I said. It’s a way for Republicans to make political hay without having to actually do anything.

]]> By: Ian http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/05/23/dont-force-sulu-to-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-577 Ian Fri, 23 May 2008 14:52:26 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=197#comment-577 I agree with you as long as the state and federal constitutions remain unchanged. I sincerely hope we never have an amendment added to make marriage only between a man and a woman, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did someday make it in there. Theres a lot of people against gay marriage in this country. I agree with you as long as the state and federal constitutions remain unchanged. I sincerely hope we never have an amendment added to make marriage only between a man and a woman, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did someday make it in there. Theres a lot of people against gay marriage in this country.

]]> By: Chris http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/05/23/dont-force-sulu-to-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-576 Chris Fri, 23 May 2008 14:08:10 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=197#comment-576 Ian, You're totally right. I think there are two things that make gay marriage an inevitable reality in all 50 states. 1) It's become a civil rights issue 2) The states that legalized gay marriage didn't fall into anarchy Ian,
You’re totally right.

I think there are two things that make gay marriage an inevitable reality in all 50 states.

1) It’s become a civil rights issue

2) The states that legalized gay marriage didn’t fall into anarchy

]]> By: Ian http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/05/23/dont-force-sulu-to-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-575 Ian Fri, 23 May 2008 13:21:08 +0000 http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/?p=197#comment-575 I don't think its judges undermining democracy at all, thats just scapegoating. The judges can only work from the state and federal constitutions that exist, so if a given law conflicts with that, you can't blame the judges if they strike it down. If there is any wiggle room in the wording of those constitutions that allows a judge to be "activist", change the constitutions to take out that wiggle room. That said, I hope the constitutions aren't changed like that. Denying gays the right to marry is blatant discrimination and making them call it "civil union" is just separate-but-equal all over again. You can't even make the "undermining the institution of marriage" argument without sounding like a total crock. That argument has no way of really being made in court, only public opinion. I don’t think its judges undermining democracy at all, thats just scapegoating. The judges can only work from the state and federal constitutions that exist, so if a given law conflicts with that, you can’t blame the judges if they strike it down. If there is any wiggle room in the wording of those constitutions that allows a judge to be “activist”, change the constitutions to take out that wiggle room.

That said, I hope the constitutions aren’t changed like that. Denying gays the right to marry is blatant discrimination and making them call it “civil union” is just separate-but-equal all over again. You can’t even make the “undermining the institution of marriage” argument without sounding like a total crock. That argument has no way of really being made in court, only public opinion.

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