Monday Blogging - 8/11/08
by Chris 9 comments Leave a comment August 11th, 2008
9:30am
Blogging it up, so you can get down. Btw, I saw Wilco on Friday, they were awesome as usual.
9:45am
Iraq’s foreign minister Hoshyar Zebari had this to say Sunday when asked if the Iraqis would accept an agreement without specific dates, “No, no definitely there has to be a very clear timeline.”
Could Bush & McCain have been anymore wrong on this?
10:20am
Shame… boatloads of shame…
11:00am
The “celebrity” war continues…
1:00pm
The architects of the Iraq war would like us to try one against Russia. I thought liberals were supposed to be the idealists?
1:20pm
From IOZ: “I find the notion that ‘we owe Georgia a serious effort to defend its sovereignty‘ because it assisted us in invading Iraq, deposing and executing Iraq’s leader, and then pursuing a multi-year occupation of Iraqi territory, to be absolutely delightful.”
2:15pm
Sometimes FOX News gets it right. Sometimes.
4:00pm
Lex Luthor as the next Batman villain? I like it.
5:00pm
Sheep vs. Sheep Dogs. An interesting battle over the legal classification of animals.
Have a good night everyone!
I am very surprised and somewhat disappointed you are not blogging about the Olympics, Bush’s interview with Costas, and NBC’s odd choice to show replays of every foul call instead of dunks and great plays.
Ted,
My 10:20am post was about the Olympics and Bush
Anyways, I’m not a big fan of the Olympics.
I don’t understand your 1:20 pm comment. Its claiming that it doesn’t make sense to justify helping an ally because that ally helped us with something that was an ill advised decision on our part. They are still an ally regardless of what they helped us with. I’m not taking sides on anything, just that comment is stupid.
The point is that Georgia wasn’t interested in national sovereignty when they helped us invade Iraq. So why should anyone care about theirs?
I feel like that is pretty forced or at best turning a blind eye to the way things actually work in favor of idealism. Iraq wasn’t ours or Georgia’s ally. Its apples and oranges. You can probably make a debate about hypocrisy in a purely moral sense, but it won’t really get you anywhere.
Isn’t that the only way to reasonably debate something abstract like sovereignty? By saying that only our allies and our sovereignty matters is to say that there is no such thing as a right to sovereignty.
No because morals are completely relative and that is kind of my point. You are seeing this from your personal set of morals which transcend the ideas of allies and real world diplomacy. You could just as easily see it from a set of morals that says there should be no countries, no divisions between nations, and that we should be all one people. You would obviously have a different point of view of the whole situation. You have to consider this from the perspective and morals of international diplomacy. Allies help each other regardless of circumstance. That is just how it goes.
That’s not a moral perspective. That’s realpolitik
Yeah well.. thats just like your… opinion… man.